Da Vinci Code
Alright, everyone keeps talking about it, so I'm going to say my peice about it.
Those higher ups in the consertive christian movement need to calm down, while there is some gross misinformation in the book Da Vinci code, it's not going to lead to the downfall or society. It's the same agnostic belifs we've been hearing for decades form the New Age Agnoistcs and the same stuff from the true Agnostics since 400AD. That is not to say we should'nt be prepared of course, but we most defintly should not be afraid.
To those on the "Dan Brown in obviously a history expert" Bandwagon:
"Google" does not make you a history expert. Dan Brown writes roughly 1 book a year and has a habit of picking a conspircay and a setting and writing a really good fiction book about it. Let me say that again: A really good fiction book
THe Roman Emporer Constantine did not attend the nincine council. Likewise he did'nt have a say about which books did or did not go into the bible.
The Nincine council's purpose was not to decide what books would go into the bible. THere was no 'bible' as we know it yet and instead priests would still rely on books on canon for a while yet. The purpose of the council was primarily to decide wether or not Jesus wasa seperate entity from god or if he a was an aspect of the same being. The 'Nincine Creed' that formed out of this is the oath that most churches use to decpiher between a christian and non-christian groups. The Close vote on this aspect? 298 to 2.
The Nincine council did debate a few of the known books and gospels. Dan Brown points to a letter written between on the bishops and his freinds back home as proof of this. He neglects to mention that most the Apochichyl books were on the list he said 'would never be considered' on the grounds they were not true or had been written as an eye-witness aocunt without the testemony of an eye-witness. The gospels were not under debate (Matthew, Mark, Luke and John) as they had been written in less than 70 AD, had conssted of either direct Eyewitness writing or of a person writing the testemony of an eye-witness(s), and were constant with secular writings that the jewish and roman records had shown.
The idea of christ having a 'secret marriage' is just odd. There was nothing in Jewish belifs about the savior that said he would'nt marry - and the disciples certainly would'nt have minded if thier leader decided to show the virtues of a bibical marriage by example rather than spoken word. There are Theological reasons why he could'nt marry: Namely, that it would put Mary, a mortal, in a postion above other mortal women. (I just get this image of Mary Magdalane talking to Mother Thersa: "Oh Yeah? Well I slept with him! Beat that, Orphan-Lover!")
Most of the 'Forbidden' books are forbidden becuase that do not belong the the christian faith, but to another faith called "Agnosticism". Agnotsticism were a relgion that came into being roughly 50-100AD and was, for the most part a pagan mystery religion that wrote thier own gospels. These gospels do not collabrate with each other and often make little to no sense historiclly. Agnosticism was popular becuase service to the priests meant getting intiated into higher and higher levels of learning after which you would be given a 'better' version of the truth that you had reiceved before. In this way Pagan Mystery relgions were almost several relgions all belving that the lower castes were being lied to for thier own benifit.
In short(well, not that short) most people just need to study the history for themselves. Buy an apochrafa and a bible, read them and look at some of the history surronding them beofre you go beliving in it.
Those higher ups in the consertive christian movement need to calm down, while there is some gross misinformation in the book Da Vinci code, it's not going to lead to the downfall or society. It's the same agnostic belifs we've been hearing for decades form the New Age Agnoistcs and the same stuff from the true Agnostics since 400AD. That is not to say we should'nt be prepared of course, but we most defintly should not be afraid.
To those on the "Dan Brown in obviously a history expert" Bandwagon:
"Google" does not make you a history expert. Dan Brown writes roughly 1 book a year and has a habit of picking a conspircay and a setting and writing a really good fiction book about it. Let me say that again: A really good fiction book
THe Roman Emporer Constantine did not attend the nincine council. Likewise he did'nt have a say about which books did or did not go into the bible.
The Nincine council's purpose was not to decide what books would go into the bible. THere was no 'bible' as we know it yet and instead priests would still rely on books on canon for a while yet. The purpose of the council was primarily to decide wether or not Jesus wasa seperate entity from god or if he a was an aspect of the same being. The 'Nincine Creed' that formed out of this is the oath that most churches use to decpiher between a christian and non-christian groups. The Close vote on this aspect? 298 to 2.
The Nincine council did debate a few of the known books and gospels. Dan Brown points to a letter written between on the bishops and his freinds back home as proof of this. He neglects to mention that most the Apochichyl books were on the list he said 'would never be considered' on the grounds they were not true or had been written as an eye-witness aocunt without the testemony of an eye-witness. The gospels were not under debate (Matthew, Mark, Luke and John) as they had been written in less than 70 AD, had conssted of either direct Eyewitness writing or of a person writing the testemony of an eye-witness(s), and were constant with secular writings that the jewish and roman records had shown.
The idea of christ having a 'secret marriage' is just odd. There was nothing in Jewish belifs about the savior that said he would'nt marry - and the disciples certainly would'nt have minded if thier leader decided to show the virtues of a bibical marriage by example rather than spoken word. There are Theological reasons why he could'nt marry: Namely, that it would put Mary, a mortal, in a postion above other mortal women. (I just get this image of Mary Magdalane talking to Mother Thersa: "Oh Yeah? Well I slept with him! Beat that, Orphan-Lover!")
Most of the 'Forbidden' books are forbidden becuase that do not belong the the christian faith, but to another faith called "Agnosticism". Agnotsticism were a relgion that came into being roughly 50-100AD and was, for the most part a pagan mystery religion that wrote thier own gospels. These gospels do not collabrate with each other and often make little to no sense historiclly. Agnosticism was popular becuase service to the priests meant getting intiated into higher and higher levels of learning after which you would be given a 'better' version of the truth that you had reiceved before. In this way Pagan Mystery relgions were almost several relgions all belving that the lower castes were being lied to for thier own benifit.
In short(well, not that short) most people just need to study the history for themselves. Buy an apochrafa and a bible, read them and look at some of the history surronding them beofre you go beliving in it.
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